so good for manchin. i think that he went back strong. i think this will turn the tide for him. put him back on top and he'll -- this is --, ed, here's what i say, one more reason why republicans are not going to get control of the u.s. senate. >> well, this would have -- is going to be a very key senate race, no question about it. >> yep. >> this is one that the democrats definitely need. but i think the authenticity factor plays here. you know, when somebody tells you something as a politician, you want to be getting the straight skinny. i mean you want the straight story. >> right. >> if you bring in some people who -- and you're faking it, you're faking it, i mean, this should seal the deal for manchin, shouldn't it. >> i think so. let me tell you something, ed, i have to tell you i don't know manchin well but i really came to admire him during that mining disaster. >> yes. >> if you look at joe manchin, to me, he looks like a west virginia, he talks like a west virginian, he acts like it. he was the real deal and john raese looks like somebody who's got a big mansion in west palm beach. >> i think this is the definition of sleaze. >> absolutely.